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“He like loves Orban and Hungary and all the rest of it.…” — Pod Save America at 35:22

“He like loves Orban and Hungary and all the rest of it. Like he is, he's, he's part of the project. Yeah. I do think that there, yeah, with Vance, like there's this sort of great salesman quality that he has. Like, uh, he, he always has this tone in, in interviews, like.”

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