“No, I think he does. I think he actually does. I think…” — Pod Save America at 38:36
“No, I think he does. I think he actually does. I think he's hearing it. I don't think he faces political pressure and that he cares about blowback in the mainstream press. I think he hears it from the congressional Republicans. And I think behind closed doors, there are more honest conversations with Mike Johnson…”
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