“the founders of the media company here, there's been a bit…” — Pod Save America at 51:18
“the founders of the media company here, there's been a bit too much focus on like what mediums and formats to communicate and get the message out. And like, I get it, you know, it's a crazy media environment right now and you can't do just television anymore and put out a press release, right? We've talked about that…”
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