“creates a trap for you if you do that by, you know…” — Pod Save America at 52:30
“creates a trap for you if you do that by, you know, introducing some really emotional story where clearly everyone should be applauding. And if you're sitting on your hands, you look bad. But I don't, it doesn't matter. Like, I think this is where like, we're like, do we applaud or not applaud? Like, why is that…”
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