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“Always has been. Always has been. Yeah. And it didn't…” — Pod Save America at 18:21

“Always has been. Always has been. Yeah. And it didn't start that way. You were genuinely concerned about people being online. And the product of doing that podcast for years was being more online. But here's the thing. We were in the White House. I once told Barack Obama that you had the most common sense of anyone…”

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