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“Yeah, that's true. All right, I'm holding out hope.…” — Pod Save America at 30:57

“Yeah, that's true. All right, I'm holding out hope. Holding out hope. Although, I mean, I guess hope for public opinion. I mean, by the time you're listening to this, it is quite possible that the strike happened because the gating issue was they were going to get through these talks on Thursday. We're recording this…”

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