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“No substance. Or the idea that maybe this is not zero sum.…” — Pod Save America at 26:35

“No substance. Or the idea that maybe this is not zero sum. Maybe bringing in South Koreans to help teach Americans how to make batteries and then giving them the privilege of living here as well can benefit Americans and South Koreans and our whole economy. And it's always the workers, too, who are the ones who get…”

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