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“Yeah. So I find myself agreeing with everything you said…” — Pod Save America at 41:47

“Yeah. So I find myself agreeing with everything you said, Tommy, about like the challenges with this. Of course, we don't have better messengers, unfortunately. I don't think there's a good plan to do something that we could declare victory over. I don't know how you get out of it once you get into it. And I do think…”

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