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“What are the downsides of the shutdown? Right. So the…” — Pod Save America at 42:29

“What are the downsides of the shutdown? Right. So the Democratic Party has the lowest approval rating. And since we've all been alive. And so I don't know how much lower we can get. We'll show you what I was going to say. It's sort of like what Trump always likes to say. What do you got to lose? Right. Macron's at 15…”

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