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“That's a great thing that we should fight for and it's…” — Pod Save America at 48:55

“That's a great thing that we should fight for and it's actually something where we could win. In fact, if we do the shutdown, I think that should be part of the message no matter what. Of course. But should it be the only message? I worry about it too. I do. It just feels inauthentic. It feels fake. It just feels…”

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