“how to really appeal to Trump, how to work Trump. And the…” — Pod Save America at 1:15:06
“how to really appeal to Trump, how to work Trump. And the best way is to look like you're a fucking tough guy. And he knows, like, I'm gay cabinet secretary. And for Trump, I need to play against type and be as tough as possible. I wouldn't be surprised if, like, Besant was very happy leaking this whole story. It's a…”
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