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“a lot of the rules here. And it's really chilling to me…” — Pod Save America at 1:31:22

“a lot of the rules here. And it's really chilling to me because, as I mentioned with my background, I watched in Trump's first administration as he tried to again and again and again co-opt a private militia for himself. And he tried initially during the Black Lives Matter protest to utilize the U.S. military.…”

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