“The questions need to be, I mean, what really truly needs…” — Pod Save America at 54:34
“The questions need to be, I mean, what really truly needs to happen, and this is the sort of, I'm always asking myself, is this a catalytic moment? Is this a moment where you really see citizen outrage on the level where you need to see it? And from the people you need to see it from. These are people who are losing…”
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