“filled with winners can create an environment where people…” — Pod Save America at 1:06:31
“filled with winners can create an environment where people can talk really strategically, but also, also with frankness and looseness and like come up with ideas. I'm all for it. I think my concern is like, I don't just want it to be about what wins because I think that is a, I mean, it's obviously a hugely important…”
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