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“I don't I don't know what happens in 2028. But like the…” — Pod Save America at 1:08:11

“I don't I don't know what happens in 2028. But like the one thing about MAGA, the one thing about Trump, you go to those rallies, you hear him speak. There is a passion and a verb and excitement and a feeling of like kinetic energy. And I largely find it much of it morally abominable. But that is something that like…”

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