“And people made various presentations about things. And…” — Pod Save America at 38:42
“And people made various presentations about things. And David Plouffe, who had run the 2008 campaign and was now just come on board as the president's senior advisor, did a presentation where he took the 2008 electoral map, a massive landslide for Obama. He won everywhere. He won easily. It was such a big thing that…”
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