“Totally. It's funny because not super long ago, let's say…” — Pod Save America at 46:34
“Totally. It's funny because not super long ago, let's say five or six years ago, he was super revered. I think with normal people who are not like you or me and looking at Twitter, still probably the vibes are smart entrepreneur guy or whatever. And a lot of his more recent stuff is just starting to get out, I think…”
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