“I don't love the Catholic church as an institution. I…” — Pod Save America at 1:10:27
“I don't love the Catholic church as an institution. I don't feel like it's always been a force for good in this world, especially some of their social views. But I think like Benedict Cardinal Ratzinger was like, he was kind of, he had that Opus Dei vibe. You know, that was when that Dan Brown book was really big.…”
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