“You know, he couldn't fully moderate the church's…” — Pod Save America at 1:10:55
“You know, he couldn't fully moderate the church's anti-LGBT views, right? But he could be decent when he talked about them. As you mentioned, he cared about poverty. He cared about refugees. He cared about migration. He cared about climate change. He was a huge critic of all wars, including the war in Ukraine. He…”
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