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“I don't know what is sufficient for Harris to win, but I…” — Pod Save America at 53:54

“I don't know what is sufficient for Harris to win, but I sure know what is necessary. A message that is dignity affirming for working class Americans, not dignity destroying. If this is a campaign that descends into name calling, no one beats Trump in that arena. Two, two, two. I agree with that. That is getting a…”

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