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“Because she's surging and he's sagging, right? A week ago…” — Pod Save America at 9:51

“Because she's surging and he's sagging, right? A week ago, I mean, you guys talked about this on Tuesday, but last Friday night, he pulled out of all the debates, pulled out the ABC debate, doesn't want to do it. Seemed like the last thing in the world he wanted to do was debate Kamala Harris, but she's on a glide…”

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