“change the calculus. I think for any of it, I would just…” — Pod Save America at 42:32
“change the calculus. I think for any of it, I would just more broadly. Well, yeah, but just on the point, I mean, I do think they were saying the same thing before the shutdown started. Like the Democrats have said, we're closing down the government to prevent people from doing their health care costs maybe double. I…”
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