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“It is so hard to move people now. It is so hard. There's…” — Pod Save America at 59:01

“It is so hard to move people now. It is so hard. There's so many kind of like counter indicators all the time. And I just that's where I kind of like I find myself struggling to even like know how we what we do in a situation where the president has launched an all out assault on the economy through tariffs is…”

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