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“Yeah, so we have a lot of levers, and ours are stronger…” — Pod Save America at 1:21:57

“Yeah, so we have a lot of levers, and ours are stronger than theirs, which is the reason why this is not a hopeless conversation. I'm laying out what their game plan is, just like before the 2020 election, I laid out, frankly, for people what Donald Trump's game plan would be, which is that he wouldn't want to leave…”

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