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“J.D. Vance, actually, whether he believes or not, it's a…” — Pod Save America at 32:45

“J.D. Vance, actually, whether he believes or not, it's a whole conversation for another time, but he doesn't. He articulates it. Right. And I do think that if you are the Trump campaign, they're thinking we're going to go. We're not trying to bridge the gap with the Nikki Haley, old establishment part of the…”

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