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“some of his closest aides are saying that they don't…” — Pod Save America at 59:23

“some of his closest aides are saying that they don't believe in polling. And maybe that's where kind of the rejection of polling language are coming from. Even then, like I read that today and it said like, it's the quote that there's some anonymous person quote in the post, but it says that Mike Donilon and Steve…”

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