“How big is the binder when you do make decisions based on…” — Pod Save America at 1:01:06
“How big is the binder when you do make decisions based on polls? And he shouts out to his assistant at the time, now state legislator, Eric Lesser. Eric, get in here and change his binder to say research. I remember that. It was so funny. I do think this is about politics. We care about this because of the stakes for…”
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