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“three or four points behind in those blue wall states. But…” — Pod Save America at 1:03:00

“three or four points behind in those blue wall states. But the question is, again, how do you make up three or four points in an incredibly polarized electorate where both candidates are at 100% name ID? And every time he goes and does one of these interviews, people who watch the interviews, forget about listening…”

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