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“And that hasn't changed. And if he does, if that, and I…” — Pod Save America at 1:05:00

“And that hasn't changed. And if he does, if that, and I hesitate to see what will change his mind because there's, I don't, I think it's like, you see like the, you know, the New York times Siena polls thrown down five or six points in those swing states. And it's like, is that going to do it? Unless like Pelosi…”

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