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“Right. And there's a little bit of, I think, working the…” — Pod Save America at 22:25

“Right. And there's a little bit of, I think, working the refs or attacking CNN because you're afraid of what happens when Trump's words hit people's ears. I think that to me is can be, I think, the least helpful form of media outrage. I think it's what do you think the media's job is? I don't necessarily think that…”

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