“regardless of the debt ceiling. And so they're going to…” — Pod Save America at 29:03
“regardless of the debt ceiling. And so they're going to try to separate those two. But unless, you know, the Biden folks decide that they can legally do the 14th Amendment thing or mint the coin or whatever the fuck you want to throw out there, they have to negotiate. There is no other way. Yeah, it's interesting.…”
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