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“That line, which was a really good line to draw, meant…” — Pod Save America at 29:40

“That line, which was a really good line to draw, meant that the only ways Republicans could open up debt ceiling negotiations again in the future is not by just feigning crazy, but by being crazy. They actually had to radicalize to the point that we now sincerely, and I think rightly, as opposed to in the past…”

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