“US, right? Like a more full-throated, less morally…” — Pod Save America at 20:11
“US, right? Like a more full-throated, less morally relativistic defense of our values, of our principles, right? Like some kind of a strategy. But then you look at what's happening, it's like we're capitulating to Russia. And they're like, well, actually, it's because we're not going to worry about what's happening…”
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