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“well, we're not Trump and we're not MAGA a couple times…” — Pod Save America at 1:09:52

“well, we're not Trump and we're not MAGA a couple times now. It didn't work in 2016. It barely worked in 2020. It didn't work in 2024. It might work in 2026 because it's a midterm electorate. But like, we got to think about 2028 here. We also got to think about just expanding the map in general because we're never…”

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