“you need to be doing two things, right? You actually do…” — Pod Save America at 1:13:52
“you need to be doing two things, right? You actually do need to use the messages that resonate with people because we're in a short-term fight and you're trying to make the argument that resonates with people. But at the same time, we're trying to make up for what is ultimately a huge credibility gap. We warned the…”
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