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“it was interesting. I didn't, I was, it surprised me. Me…” — Pod Save America at 41:13

“it was interesting. I didn't, I was, it surprised me. Me too. Larry Hogan is the one exception in there because he's running for Senate in Maryland and kind of winning at the moment. Um, or I was wondering if in J Mart's piece, the point was like, maybe he should have reached out to Larry Hogan before he jumped into…”

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