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“why having kids was not a good thing, why they were glad…” — Pod Save America at 34:22

“why having kids was not a good thing, why they were glad they didn't have kids. And what it made me realize is that so much of what drives elite culture is mediocre millennial journalists who haven't gotten out of their career what they thought they would, right? You're going to be a sad, lonely, pathetic person, and…”

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