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“But what we can do is diminish the utility of the system…” — Pod Save America at 52:05

“But what we can do is diminish the utility of the system by changing whose voices get into the political system to begin with. And one of those ways is ranked choice voting. And so I got to have this amazing conversation with Cynthia Ritchie, who has been working on this issue very effectively. And we have seen…”

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