“and try to listen. And the way I sort of say it is like…” — Pod Save America at 55:13
“and try to listen. And the way I sort of say it is like, if you're only having comfortable conversations in politics, it means you're not talking to all the people you need to be talking to. You know, politics should inherently be uncomfortable. You know, it should inherently be difficult. But, you know, it's so easy…”
0:00
1:15:22