“you know, try to engage and show people that like, look…” — Pod Save America at 1:11:23
“you know, try to engage and show people that like, look, there's a path of less resistance if you choose some of these types of issues that I think we can try to find some meaningful engagement on. But I'm not going to be naive. You know, I worked in Congress for two years under the previous Trump administration. I…”
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