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“But he was not convinced. He kept arguing. And I said…” — Acquired at 55:14

“But he was not convinced. He kept arguing. And I said, look, why do we get the consultant? McKinsey. McKinsey. Oh, I got McKinsey. Okay. So we got McKinsey in. And McKinsey after a month or two months, actually, and a couple of million dollars, I guess,”

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