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“other things to discuss. Anyway, so I said, no, we were…” — Acquired at 1:16:40

“other things to discuss. Anyway, so I said, no, we were about to go into production away. We were almost in production with 28 nanometers at that time. The initial stage, anyway, 28. So I said, I thought it was going to be 28. No, what node do you want? 20, he said. Now, that was a surprise to”

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