“But that is true. I mean, he believed that Fabless was…” — Acquired at 2:32:13
“But that is true. I mean, he believed that Fabless was going to be a thing, but for the first, I don't know, at least five years, the only real business that they had was IDMs who were willing to say, how cheap can you give me some of your manufacturing capacity? And it's not strategic at”
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