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“Yeah, the field's about as old as I am. So it's in the…” — Software Engineering Daily at 2:09

“Yeah, the field's about as old as I am. So it's in the late 40s. It's the very beginning, the ENIAC and things like that. And the first, when I decided to study computer science, I had no reaction from my relatives. It was not like in the 1960s, everybody said computing was the future. It was just this kind of side…”

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