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“good mechanism because this paper appeared in the…” — Software Engineering Daily at 39:32

“good mechanism because this paper appeared in the conference to say, hey, by the way, remember that paper everybody's citing? It's off by 100,000. So I try to go around and give talks tonight, but it's basically an unsolved problem. So that's got me into the space. I think what happens today is people just have a…”

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