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“Do we know that it was the Van Epps campaign's decision…” — Pod Save America at 26:19

“Do we know that it was the Van Epps campaign's decision not to have Trump come? Or could it also have been the case that Trump was just lazy and didn't care? I think Trump visiting would be a relatively extreme measure for a special election. But they didn't even use him in ads. Like he didn't record one of those…”

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