“Well, it's not just do you want them to do it. It's do you…” — Pod Save America at 31:58
“Well, it's not just do you want them to do it. It's do you think that will be effective? Well, that's that's my point. There's a lot of like, oh, we can just move around pieces on a chessboard. Those of us who play pundits on Twitter. And it's like, yeah, I totally agree that like you want a candidate who fits the…”
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