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“Yeah, and I think you're correct in saying like, where do…” — Crime Junkie at 1:49

“Yeah, and I think you're correct in saying like, where do we even begin with this? But yeah, I mean, I will say that it was not the outcome. I wanted, obviously, but you know, and you and I talked throughout the years of all this happening since you were the first person I called when my dad was arrested.”

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