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“It's completely true. She was definitely like a launch…” — The Vergecast at 23:25

“It's completely true. She was definitely like a launch event holding the phone and there are three comms people standing behind. We've all been through this. And eventually you become a sociopath. You're like, I don't care what you think. But early on, you're like, yeah, I think they'll sell it to some people who…”

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