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“All right, we're back. So now let's go to like 2013. So…” — The Vergecast at 31:30

“All right, we're back. So now let's go to like 2013. So there's actually some reporting years ago that BBM had a working cross-platform and desktop version that would have worked everywhere as early as 2010. But the executives chose not to release it based on the, it's the same theory as iMessage, right? It's like…”

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